Peter WENGER held citizenship at Forst, Amsoldingen Parish, Canton Bern,
Switzerland.  He was married at Amsoldingen on 19 Feb. 1717 as a resident
of Forst to Barbara ERHARD of Blumenstein.1

At the baptism of his son Peter he was listed as a "Schulmeister" [teacher].
At the death of his wife Barbara, she was called the wife of the "Spendvogt"
[almoner].

Peter WENGER and Barbara ERHARD had children born at Forst, and baptized
at Amsoldingen:
1. Barbara WENGER bap. 6 Feb. 1718;1 m.1 Christen MEGERT 14 Nov. 1738;4
   m.2 Hans Hofmann 30 Jan. 1744;5 d. 9 Oct. 1776 Oberbütschel, Rüeggisberg
   Parish, Canton Bern, bur. 12 Oct.;6
2. Christen WENGER bap. 1 Nov. 1722;1 m. 6 June 1752 Barbara BRÖNNIMANN;2
   d. 10 April 1786 Forst, bur. 13 April 1786;3
3. Peter WENGER bap. 8 July 1725;1 m. 6 June 1752 Elisabeth KISLIG;2

Julius Billeter in Genealogy of the Fischer Family of Höfen, & Amsoldingen;
Wenger Family of Höfen, Forst, Langenbühl & Dittlingen, Kt. Bern, Switzerland,
abt. 1540-18957 listed that the Christian WENGER who married Barbara
BRÖNNIMANN as the Christian baptized 22 Feb. 1729, son of Peter WENGER and
wife Anna RIEM, although his notes on the WENGER family of Forst listed no
father for him.8

Several records show that to be in error.  First, is that Christen's son
Christen married Barbara HÄNNI on 31 Mar. 1786, which was followed by
the marriage of his son Johannes on 19 May 1786.  A bracket was drawn to
include both marriages, and listed them as [sons] of the deceased
Kirchm[eyer].3 As the bracket included both names, it would have been made
after the marriage of Johannes, which was also after the death of Christian
WENGER the "alt Kirchmeÿer," [their father] who died between their marriages on
13 April 1786.3  His age at death of 64 corresponds with the 1722 birth, not the
1729 one.

The second evidence is that Christen and [his brother] Peter married on the
same day, respectively to Barbara BRÖNNIMANN and Elisabeth KISLIG.2 Additional
evidence is found in the sponsors they had for their children.  Christen
WENGER and wife Barbara BRÖNNIMANN had as one of the sponsors, Barbara
HOFMANN, born WENGER, of "Riggisberg" [sic Rüeggisberg].2  For their second
child, one of the sponsors was Peter WENGER.2  For their fifth child in 1760,
one of the sponsors was the "Spendvogt" [almoner] Peter WENGER's wife [not named].
From her death record in 1758, Barbara ERHARD, [the mother of the Christen WENGER
who married Barbara BRÖNNIMANN], was the wife of the Spendvogt Peter WENGER.3
From that it would that Peter WENGER remarried after her death, but it was not
at Amosoldingen.


Peter WENGER and wife Elisabeth KISLIG had among the three sponsors for their
first child, Hans Hofmann of Rüeggisberg [second husband of his sister Barbara],
and Barbara BRÖNNIMANN, the wife of his [br]uder [brother] Christen WENGER.2

Barbara WENGER and her second husband Hans Hofmann had as sponsors for chidren
baptized in 1756 and 1757 at Rüeggisberg, Peter WENGER and Elsbeth KISLIG
[Peter's wife]. For the first their residence was not given, but for the second
both were listed as from Amsoldingen.11  While Peter WENGER and wife Anna RIEM
also had children named Barbara and Peter, their daughter Barbara was born in 
1725. Born in 1725, she would be too young to be the Barbara who first married
Christen MEGERT at Wattenwil in 1738 and secondly Hans HOFMANN at Rüeggsiberg.
The combination of all the records, shows the parents of Christen WENGER who
married Barbara BRÖNNIMANN were the Spendvogt Peter WENGER and wife Barbara
ERHARD, not Peter WENGER and wife Anna RIEM.

Christen WENGER and Barbara BRÖNNIMANN had children 6 children
born at Forst. All except Barbara were baptized at Amsoldingen,
she being baptized at Wattenwil:
1. Christen WENGER bap. 10 June 1753;2 m. Christina HÄNNI 31 Mar. 1786;3
   d. 10 Sep. 1804 Forst, bur. 12 Sep. 1804;3	
2. Elisabetha WENGER bap. 13 Oct. 1754;2 m. Peter Messerli 4 May 1782;3
3. Johannes "Hans" WENGER bap. 1 Aug. 1756;2 m. Anna MEGERT 19 May 1786;3
   d. 3 June 1831 Forst, bur 7 June 1831;10
4. Barbara WENGER bap. 8 Oct. 1758;9 
5. Margaretha WENGER bap. 10 Feb. 1760;2 m. Bendicht MESSERLI3,10 17 June 1780;3
   d. 22 Feb. 1827 Längenbühl, Amsoldingen Parish, bur. 26 Feb. 1827;10
6. Anna WENGER bap. 15 Nov. 1761;2 m. Gerhard Boss 13 Dec. 1783;3
   d. 20 April 1791, bur. 23 April, Seftigen, Gurzelen Parish, Canton Bern18

Christen WENGER and Christina HÄNNI had 8 children born at Forst.
All of the children of Christen and Christina were baptized at
Amoldingen, except Elisabeth and Magdalena who was baptized at Wattenwil.
1. Christen WENGER bap. 24 Dec. 1786;12 d. 17 Feb. 1787 Forst,
   bur. 19 Feb. 1787;3
2. Christian WENGER bap. 9 Dec. 1787;12; m. Jacobina19 "Mary"20,21 Aubill;20,22
   d. 13 June 1856 Tuscarawas Co., Ohio;23 bur. Ragersville Cem., 
   Tusacarawas Co.23
3. Anna WENGER bap. 6 Dec. 1789;12 d. 21 Mar. 1794 Forst,
   bur. 24 Mar. 1794;3
4. Johannes WENGER bap. 29 Jan. 1792;12 m. 10 Mar. 1837 Susanna Wyler;24
   d. 21 Jan. 1846 Forst10
5. David WENGER bap. 1 June 1794;12 d. 1 Nov. 1795 Forst
   bur. 3 Nov. 1795;3
6. David WENGER bap. 6 Mar. 1796;12 d. 6 Mar. 1796 Forst [same day as
   baptized], bur. 8 Mar. 1796;3
7. Anna WENGER bap. 19 Mar. 1797;12 banns 16 Feb., 23 Feb., 2 Mar. 1817
   Chirstian GREBER;13 d. 17 May 1837 Kienthal, Reichenbach Parish,
   Canton Bern, Switzerland14
8. Elisabeth WENGER b. 22 Dec. 1798;9,12 bap. 30 Dec. 1798;9,12 m. Johannnes
   [John] ZIMMERMANN [ZIMMERMAN] 14 Mar. 1823;13,15 d. 216 or 317 Apr. 1878;
   Tuscarawas Co., Ohio; bur. Ragesersville Cem., Auburn Twp.,
   Tuscarawas Co., Ohio17
9. Magdalena WENGER b. 19 Aug. 1802;9 bap. 20 Aug. 1802;9


1. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Amsoldingen, Canton Bern, Switzerland. Amsoldingen Book 1, Baptisms 1661-1739, Marriages 1661-1739 Marriage section: p. 47 Wenger-Erhard Amsoldingen Book 1, Baptisms 1661-1739, Marriage 1661-1739 Baptismal section (1661-1739): p. 326 Barbara, 1718. Sponsors: Anthoni Heger of Blumenstein, Madlena Wenger, Elsbeth Fischer p. 353 Christen, 1722. Sponsors: Hans Meÿer, David Wenger, Cathrina Küenzi p. 387 Peter, 1725. Sponsors: David Feller [relative of the mother's mother], Hans Zimmermann, Madlena Wenger 2. Amsoldingen Book 2, Baptisms 1740-1781; Marriages 1740-1755 Baptismal section: p. 57 Christen, 1753. Sponsors: Christen Stubi of Zimmerwald [husband of the wife's sister]; Daniel Brönnimann of Zimmerwald [brother of the mother]; Barbara Hofmann, born Wenger, of "Riggisberg" [sic, Rüeggisberg] [sister of the father] p. 71 Elisabeth, 1754. Sponsors: Peter Wenger of Forst [brother or father of the father]; Elisabeth Schweitzer of Thurnen; Elisabeth Hanni, born Balmer p. 77 Elisabeth, daughter of Peter Wenger and Elisabeth Kislig bap. 27 Apr. 1755. Sponsors: Hans Hofmann of Rüeggisberg [husband of the father's sister]; Barbara Brönnimann the [Br]uder [brother] Christen Wenger's wife at Forst; Elisabeth Schonthal, born Meÿer of Amsoldingen p. 86 Johannes, 1756. Sponsors: Christen Krebs, the Ammann [official] of "Kilchdorf" [Kirchdorf]; Gerhard Boss of Seftigen; Magadelen Moser, Hans Wenger's wife at [blot] p. 105 Margaritha, 1760. Sponsors: the wife [unnamed] of Peter Wenger [father of the husband] Spendvogt [alomner] of Forst; Margareth Bähler, Peter Wiler's wife from Längenbühl; Anna Hadorn of Forst p. 119 Anna, 1761. Sponsors: Peter Feller of Noflen, [relative of the father's maternal grandmother??]; Anna Wenger of Forst; Christina Guggisperg, Hans Bruner's widow of Thieracheren [Thierachern] Marriage section: p. 248 1752 Wenger of Forst-Brönnimann of Zimmerwald p. 248 1752 Wenger of Forst-Kislig of Noflen, parish Kirchdorf 3. Amsoldingen Book 9, Communicants 1735 - 1834; Marriages 1752 - 1811; Burials 1728 - 1807 Marriage section: p. 31 Messerli, Bendicht of Längenbühl-Wenger, Margaretha of Forst p. 34 Messerli, Peter, widower of Hatigen-Wenger, Elisabeth of Forst p. 36 Boss of Seftigen-Wenger of Forst p. 38 Wenger-Hanni, both of Forst p. 38 Wenger of Forst-Megert of Wattenwil Death section: p. 20 25 Jan. 1758, Barbara Erhard the Spend vogt Peter Wenger's wife of Forst, age 70 p. 45 Christen, 1786, "alt Kirchmeÿer" [old administrator of church property] of Forst, age 64. p. 46 Christen, 1787, son of Christen, age 9 weeks p. 55 Anna, 1794, child of the Chor:[richter] [justice of the family and marriage court] at Forst age 5 p. 58 David, 1795, 1 year old child of the Chorichter p. 59 David, 1796, baptized at birth, the Chorrichter [justice of the family and marriage court] at Forst's child p. 69 Christen, 1804,altchorr[ichter], age 52. 4. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Wattenwil, Canton Bern, Wattenwil Book 1, Baptisms 1660-1706, Marriages 1659-1752. Marriage section: p. 305 1738 Megert of Wattenwil-Wenger of Forst 5. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Rüeggisberg, Book 12, Marriages 1626-1759. p. 200 1744 Hoffmann of Bütshcel-Megert born Wenger of Wattenwil 6. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Rüeggisberg, Book 18, Burials 1733-1828. p. 21 1776 Hofmann of Oberbütshcel born Wenger 7. Julius Billeter, Genealogy of the Fischer Family of Höfen, & Amsoldingen; Wenger Family of Höfen, Forst, Langenbühl & Dittlingen, Kt. Bern, Switzerland, abt. 1540-1895 (Billeter, 1898). 8. Julius Billeter, "Genealogical Notes on the Wenger Family," FHL microfilm 0,193,487. 9. Wattenwil Book 3, 1752-1802 baptismal register. p. 32 Barbara, 1758. Sponsors: Christen Brönnimann of Zimmerwald [brother of the mother]; Barbara Guggisberg of Zimmerwald; Elisabeth Streit of Forst p. 295 Elisabeth, 1798. Father:Christen Wenger of Forst Mother: Christina Hänni Sponsors: Hans Hänni, the mother's single brother; Anna Megert, Hans Wenger's wife from Forst [wife of the father's brother]; Anna Bähler of Längenbühl, the deceased Christen's single daughter [maternal cousin of the mother, born in 1759] p. 328 Magdalena, 1802. Father: Christen Wänger of Forst, Church Amsoldingen Mother: Christina Hänni Sponsors: Hans Hänni, the mother's brother; Magdalena Wenger, David Hänni's wife [parents of Christina], Elisabeth Gfeller [Feller] the deceased Hans Hänni's widow [he the uncle of Christina] 10. Amsoldingen Book 12, Burials 1808-1851 Death section: p. 38 1827 Margaritha Messerli of Längenbühl, born Wenger, surviving widow of Bendicht, age 67. p. 52 1831 Hans Wenger, Christian's son of Forst, age 76 p. 93 1846, Johannes Wenger of Forst, age 54 11. Rüeggisberg, Book 5, Baptisms 1756-1796. pp. 2, 17. 12. Amsoldingen Book 3, Baptisms 1782-1811 Baptismal section: p. 31 Christen, 1786. Sponsors: Hans Wenger of Forst [brother of the father]; Bendicht Messerli of Längenbühl [husband of the father's sister]; Magdalena Bäler of Längenbühl [maternal cousin of the mother, born in 1769] p. 39 Christen, 1787. Sponsors: Christen Hänni [brother of the mother]; Bendicht Messerli [husband of the father's sister]; Magdal: Bähler [maternal cousin of the mother] p. 52 Anna, 1789. Sponsors: Hans Hänni [brother of the mother]; Anna Wenger [sister or sister-in-law of the father]; Elisabeth Messerli of Hattigen [Gemeinde Längenbühl, sister of the father] p. 65 Johannes, 1792. Sponsors: Hans Wenger [brother of the father]; David Hänni [brother of the mother]; Anna Wenger [probably Anna Megert, wife of the father's brother Hans] p. 80 David, 1794. Sponsors: Peter Messerli [husband of the father's sister]; Hans Hänni [brother of the mother]; Anna Wenger [probably Anna Megert, wife of the father's brother Hans] p. 88 David, 1796. Sponsors: Hans Hänni [brother of the mother]; Christen Bähler of Längenbühl [maternal cousin of the mother, born in 1762]; Anna Wenger, born Megert [wife of the father's brother] p. 93 Anna, 1797. Sponsors: Hans Hänni [brother of the mother]; Anna Megert [wife of the father's brother]; Elisabeth Bähler [maternal cousin of the mother, born in 1757] Auswärtige section: p. 46 Elisabeth, 1798. Sponsors: Hans Hänni, the mother's brother; Anna Wenger of Forst, born Megert [wife of the father's brother]; Anna Bähler of Längenbühl, the deceased Christen's daughter [maternal cousin of the mother, born in 1759] 13. Amsoldingen Book 10, Marriages 1807-1837 p. 32 Greber of Kienthal, church Reichenbach, Johannes son with Wenger of Forst, the deceased Chorrichter Christen's daughter p. 61 Johannes Zimmermann of Wattenwil, Christen's son and Elisabeth Wenger of Forst, the deceased altchorrichter Christen's daughter. Both single. Announcement Feb. 23, Mar. 2, 9; married 14 Married Wattenwil 14. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Reichenbach, Book 18, Burials 1826-1856. p. 42 entry #43, Anna Wenger, Christen Greber's of Kienthal wife age 40y 2m 15. Wattenwil Book 9, Marriages 1752-1828. p. 75 Johannes Zimmermann, Christen's son from here in Schwarzmoos and Elisabeth Wenger the deceased Chorrichter Christen's daughter at Forst 16. Maxine Renner Eberle, Kirchenbuch der Ersten Hochdeutsch-Reformierten Gemeinde zu Ragersville, Tuscarawas Co., Ohio = Church Book of The First German-Reformed Congregation in Ragersville, Tuscarawas County, Ohio, (Sugarcreek, Ohio: Ragersville Historical Society, 1986), 61. born 25 Dec. 1798; died 2 April 1878, age 79-3-2 17. Elisabeth Zimmerman headstone, Ragersville Cem., Tuscarawas Co., Ohio died 3 April 1878, age 79y, 3m, 8d 18. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Gurzelen Book 14, Burials 1750-1824. p. 96 Anna Wenger, wife of Gerhard Boss of Seftigen, age 27y 6m 19. 1850 Tuscarawas Co., Ohio, Christian Wingard household, p. 46A 20. Christain Wenger death certificate, #51704, 28 Sep. 1912. 21. 1860 Tuscarawas Co., Ohio, Mary Wenger household, p. 207. 22. Susan Comfort death certificate, #59114, 26 Oct. 1933. Note that in 1860 Susanna was not in her mother's household (source #21) but was living with her aunt Elisabeth (Wenger) Zimmerman. History of the Zimmerman Family states that Elisabeth (Wenger) Zimmerman reared several orphan children and one adopted daughter Susan Wenger who became later Mrs. Susan Comfort. 23. Christian Wenger headstone, Ragersville Cem., Tuscarawas Co., Ohio 24. Amsoldingen Book 11, Marriages 1837-1875. p. 3 Johanne Wenger, the deceased Christen's son of Forst, single baptized 29 Jan. 1792, and Susanna Wyler, Christen's daughter of Längenbühl baptized 17 Feb. 1811; married at Thun

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